The Ellettsville, Indiana
Roll Call:†† Members
present were: †President, Terry Baker; Vice President, Sandra
Approval of the Minutes-
Terry Baker, A new item has been added to the agenda concerning potential conflicts of interest concerning commission members and items on the agenda.† Terry asked the commissioners if any of them have any conflict of interest on any items listed on the agenda for this evenings meeting.
Don Calvert- Deer Park/S.R. 46- I have a conflict of interest with
Sandra Hash, I make a motion to approve of the
Terry Baker- Proposed changes to the Ellettsville Municipal Code.
Phill Smith- Phill made a motion accept the changes to Chapter 96 Animals code changes.† Don Calvert seconded the motion.† Roll call, motion carried.
Terry Baker- Asked for any public comment.
Terry Baker- Terry questioned the Town's attorney wanting to take out certain language in the sign code-"professionally produced signs".
∑ Handmade/drawn signs,
∑ Is the term not liked because of legal reasons or personal reasons,
∑ Discretionary opinion of what is professionally produced,
∑ Could the word "commercially produced" be used, this would be a sign that was paid for,
∑ Criteria is needed for the sign code
The commissioners would like to review the sign code before it is
passed onto the
∑ Entrance-traffic flow,
∑ Size of each parking spot,
∑ INDOT requirements,
∑ External display area, fenced and secured,
∑ Fire hydrant locations,
∑ Pervious surface material being used on the parking lot,
∑ Stortz-explained by Chief Davis
Carter- representing the petitioner- the
commission members felt the project was well presented at the last
Questions by the commissioners included:
∑ Terrace affect- external display locations
Terry Baker- Any public comment, seeing none I would entertain a motion.
Phill Smith-I make a motion that we approve of the new development at 5790 W. SR 46- Tractor Supply as presented.† Don Calvert seconded.† Motion carried unanimously.
Request for rezone at
∑ Comprehensive Plan requirements,
∑ Key land use regulations; higher density, site review of proposal
∑ Rezone requirements, drainage and stormwater management issues
∑ The land depression area on lot 1,
∑ Reduced number of driveways,
∑ Placement of duplexes,
∑ Drainage improvements
Terry Baker- Any questions.
∑ The trees located in the area-would they be removed for the development,
∑ Thin row of trees which separates the proposed area from the gas station,
∑ Will additional trees be added,
∑ Will the cul-de-sac be put in immediately,
∑ Retention pond location,
Doug Curry- The trees would not be saved, they'll be taken out.† The others are on the boundary line, and they should stay and act as a buffer between the gas station and the development.† I'm not sure about additional tree plantings.† There will be curb and gutter and a sidewalk from the bulb out to Deer Run.† We will put in retention areas as required by the development.† There will be less water running off of this project when developed as there is now right now.†††
Terry Baker- Do I have any comments from the audience?†
Rob Hood- †Resident in the neighborhood that would be adjacent to two of the lots.† His concerns consisted of;
∑ Larger density,
∑ Concern of future development,
∑ Concerned of R-2 rezone and rental property,
∑ Future rezones,
∑ More water being channeled into my property
Doug Curry- We are just trying to get the rezone right now.†
Rob Hood- Questioned a conflict of interest with Rick representing the town as the Town Engineer and by speaking on the rezone for the petitioner.
Doug Curry- I think we have to do a better job.†
Zoning ordinance; preparation and consideration of proposals
Sec. 603. In preparing and considering proposals under the 600 series, the plan commission and the legislative body shall pay reasonable regard to:
(1) the comprehensive plan;
(2) current conditions and the character of current structures and uses in each district;
(3) the most desirable use for which the land in each district is adapted;
(4) the conservation of property values throughout the jurisdiction; and
(5) responsible development and growth.
As added by Acts 1981, P.L.309,
Terry Baker- I would entertain a motion of the rezoning of the
Request for voluntary annexation of House of Prayer/Mitchell property, approximately 68 acres, along Harbison, Hartstrait and Woodyard Roads.
∑ Sign location,
∑ The whole parcel will be on an agricultural zone,
∑ Is the area in a floodplain,
∑ Did the county want you to take your sign down
House of Prayer,
Terry Baker- Any comments from the public.
Chuck Chmielewski- I live next to the house of prayer.† We got the letter a few weeks ago.† They have been good neighbors.† I'm just a little concerned about the future use of the land.† We had heard things about water from wells, building facilities, we hope things don't change and we don't want dormitories out there, will things stay about the same.
Larry Mitchell- Things will stay pretty much the way they are.† Our congregation has grown and we've thought about building a larger facility.† Other counties have developed houses of prayer, so we are happy that more churches are getting started, so right now we don't have any plans of more development.
Terry Baker- I entertain a motion.†
Phill Smith I make a motion for the voluntary annexation of House of
Prayer/Mitchell property, approximately 68 acres, along Harbison, Hartstrait
and Woodyard Roads.†
Sandra Hash- Requested Frank to send the plan to her for
Request for outside seating, El Ranchero, 3615 W. SR 46†
American Planning Associationís Ethical principles in Planning
Terry Baker- We discussed adopting the ethical principles.† I think we should discuss this next month for consideration. †
NON AGENDA ITEMS
Don Calvert- What's the story on Heritage Trail?†
∑ Applied for funds for the stimulus package- Bloomington MPO eligible for $300,000, 100% grant- we have to have environmental, right of way done by Feb. 2010,
∑ In house work,
∑ $169,000- 2003 notified of a grant 80/20 match,
∑ Dormant on status of the project,
∑ Late March some money has been pledged toward the match,
∑ Unpaid intern- she can work on this project,
∑ Timelines, MPO meet their deadline- money can be lost (Sept. 2009)
∑ Things they need to be working on- project input, public input/meetings,
∑ Working with a number of people on the trail
Heritage Trail Comments by
∑ Loose grant money,
∑ Who are the "they" that needs to be doing something?†
∑ Is it the town board?†
∑ What's the hold up?
Sandra Hash- explained her understanding of the project and the timeframe on the project:
∑ Establish the ownership of the trail,
∑ Environmental study done,
∑ Lots of steps prior to a bid process,
∑ Reviewing files
Don Calvert- Are we doing those steps now? †I haven't seen any plans lately.† I thought this was part of the redevelopment plan downtown.
Heritage Trail Comments by
∑ Hold ups- feeling like the bridge, was the bridge to nowhere,
∑ $190,000 spent on a bridge,
∑ Rebuilding the depot,
∑ Land reverting back to the owners,
∑ Documents from CXX to allow the property to go back to the owner,
∑ The trail has been questioned by many citizens and they want it to get going,
∑ Changes in Town revenue,
∑ Can things be cut from the trail,
∑ We could start small and add to it in time, if we are being prohibited
We need to work with other groups on private donations.† There are a lot of issues, such as who takes care of the money, recognition for donors, and how this is going to be set up.† The Bloomington MPO is guaranteed about $300,000 in T-grants enhancement funds that can be used for sidewalks and trail enhancement.† If we have a track record of actually completing these grants we can go back for another grant.
Terry Baker- It's easier to get money if you show you complete projects.†
Sandra Hash- Having representation from each group keeps us all up to date.
Sandra Hash- I thought we had our starting point?† We have a map hanging in Town Hall.
Sandra Hash- Our office can handle the money.
Sandra Hash- We already have a park donation fund, we could isolate the money from the grant and put the donations in this fund and track them.† Do we have to ask council to start a donation campaign?† With 5,000 people, if everyone would give $10.00 for the trail then we could come up with the money.
Don Calvert- Sidewalks and bridges over SR 46 were discussed by the state in the past.†
***Lots of people talking, hard to distinguish comments.
Sandra Hash- I know all Connie wants is another code revision, but if you and her would work on this and bring it back to us, I'm sure you would get approval from us.†
Terry Baker- I think this should be on next month's agenda.† These are good suggestions, and let's not put them off for six months, let's get them going.†††
Terry Baker- I would entertain a motion.† - I make a motion we adjourn.